Mastin

Thought I'd make one of these eventually.

Join Date

October 8th, 2008. What's hilarious is that, back when there were only ten months, October was the eighth, and if we still had only ten months, the join date would've been 8/8/08 (It is common knowledge that Oct is eight). Well, we have twelve, so, ah, well. I missed by a little. No offense was taken to August, and Certainly Not July (the month my birthday is in), for throwing me off by two months. :P

EDIT: An anonymous commenter would like to point out that if there are ten months, each month would have roughly 35-37 days in it, which would mean that October 8th would fall on a different day than the one that is referred to here.

Anyway, With that out of the way, let's get on to more details.

Facts About Me

• I am mostly self-taught from reading the wiki.

• While I like to think that I've got all the fallacies/gambits/theories/tells memorized, this is far from the case, as I will very, very oftenly forget common knowledge. The bodyguard/chainsaw defense, for example, I forgot a key fact about, which--contrary to the speculation against me-- was an honest mistake, a bad one which forced me to claim as cop. (742)

• In my free time, I practice on epicmafia (from replacing out of 688 to replacing into 735, this was my only other source of being taught besides spectating a few games here and there in mafiascum.net, although, now I have experience from completed games), a flash-mafia site where games go quickly. I like to use my pure logic to lead my side to victory, going off of scum tells, etc. See playstyle. (Assuming I am amongst smart players, it works, for the most part.)

• However, people love to lynch me in every game I participate in. See playstyle.

• And night kill me when I'm not mafia. There's a 30% chance that if I don't die n1 in a game where half the players know me, I'm mafia. There is a 30% chance that I was protected, and a 40% chance that they are going to try and frame me for not dieing.

• The above three points apply to epicmafia mainly, as I have not played in enough games to determine whether or not it is true for me here as well. However, at least being night-killed applies. See below.

• I am confirming I am a popular night kill--In MANY games, I've been the night-kill soon after I join. In 763, I was the night kill n1, and there are many others of this nature. :/

Win-Loss Ratio

Side/Win/Loss/Replaced Out/Tie/Abandoned

Town/5/1.

Mafia/0/0/1/0/0 (BINARY! :P)

Ratios On Other Sites

Not very impressive. I wish they didn't let games die. As a player, the mods left me. As a mod, I failed to get the players needed to start my own game of mafia, despite it being a relatively fun game, in my opinion. However, they are part of my mafia history, hence, I feel the need to include them here.

UCAG

Side/Win/Loss/Replaced Out/Tie/Abandoned

Town/0/0/0/0/2

Mafia. (All Zeros)

I need better mods for my UCAG games.

Epic Mafia

These stats are for my main account. Alts have been excluded.

Win/Loss

147/196

It's hard to get a better win ratio, due to players there believing logic is a scum tell. >_>

Playstyle

I'm aggressive. I pursue my targets with a vengeance and give every scrap of logic pointing to them being guilty. Nowadays, I will also point out the defense of the player I am attacking, as to not do so apparently makes me scummy.

Contrary to popular belief, I don't, however, tunnel vision, despite what has been stated about me (and even if I did, my experience is that townies tunnel vision more often than scum). I do it on all players (assuming I have the time to do so). And to the *insert number of mafia in said game here, possibly +1* players who respond poorly in comparison to the others, they earn my vote and FoS on those I can't vote.

My aggressive style, however, has been bashed against the rocks so many times, it is unbelievable. It is inheritantly scummy, apparently, to give my logic and vote on it. This often results in a wall of text (both in my defense, and attacks on others), as when I gather loads of evidence, I really gather loads of evidence. Many dislike my playstyle, and when I am town (on epicmafia, at least), I am honestly surprised to see my name among the living...well, every day. I expect to be night killed, and probably am only not nightkilled because the scum want to set up my lynch, citing my natural playstyle as loads of scum tells, one after another.

I think that scum on epicmafia, at least, nightkill me partially just to see how I nailed them and was angry at the town for not seeing what I do. :P (Due to Bleach Mafia, this might apply to mafiascum.net in the future, though)

Largest influences

My largest playstyle influences come from Newbie 688. The belief of lynching a bad townie would be acceptable to teach them not to be scummy I inherited from mrfixij (this has somewhat changed recently). Going off of logic and reasoning, I've always done, but both Moses le fou, Battle Mage, and Alduskkel influenced that. Going off of my instinct is something CF_Riot and springlullaby influenced me with, but I still stick with logic first above all others. As for my huge walls of text, all of the above players are to blame for that. A two-month day one that lasts twenty-five pages should give you an idea of why my posts are so long.

Ha, trying to shift the blame onto the players of Newbie 688? No Mastin, I'm quite sure you developed your habit of posting walls on your own. -Alduskkel

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Lol. Okay, maybe they didn't flat-out cause the walls of text, but instead of quote pyramids (illegal on the site I come from, the battleon forums), I decided to go for Dissecting posts instead, which makes them far longer than any quote pyramid would.

Anyway, more recent influences are people like Albert B. Rampage. His short posts have done an equally powerful job of scum hunting as my novellas. He's encouraged me to, well, be shorter in my posts. Now, when I replace into a game, if I remember to do so, I'll ask the players if they want me to do a short-version-short or huge gigantic novels. He's also fueled my aggressive side.

My Legacy

Who knew it was possible to become famous so quickly? I sure didn't. For my huge walls of text (Newbie 742 is where the walls of text name I use for the most part was introduced; it is other players who call my posts Mastin-sized), my name--at least in one of the games I am playing in--has come to have a meaning along these lines. You see, I started the game out with a supper massive black h--errm, I mean, super massive post that was over thirty pages in Microsoft Word. I then made another long post, and a few more. Soon enough, people in that game started calling posts "Mastin-sized". So the term loosely means "Any post of insanely long lengths". JoeCool360 is the first to have used the adjective form of the word, Mastinity. Alduskkel created two in one post, Mastin-ish, meaning resembling a post of insanely long lengths, and Mastinian, which, umm, I can't put a meaning on. :/

(Note: My Legacy is mainly due to reasons given in the Playstyle section of this page, but has expanded to include so much as to be separate from Playstyle)

Signatures

I like sigs. This is what my sigs have said.

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Current MS Record:

Side/Win/Loss/Replaced

Town/3/1/0

Mafia/0/0/1

Total 6

UCAG: I hate modkilled games

Epic Mafia Wins/Loss: ~147/196

"If television makes your brain lazy, reading Mastin's posts will give you mind atrophy." -Albert

It's a little outdated, but I update it every once and a while. When I think of more things I want in my sig (as it's near the character limit), the record will be dropped, though I'll keep Albert B. Rampage's quote.

Title Suggestions

I have been nominated for several different titles, and have rather the list of my own which I can name myself that could be used. However, these are my favorites of the ones listed so far:

• Paperback Writer (Kublai Khan).

Reasoning: "For his excessively long-winded posts. Search any one of his games for proof." <--It's true, for the most part. While I'm holding back, nowadays, I am known for long posts, and part of the reasoning for it is that I write novels in my spare time.

• Unabridged (Xylthixlm said it originally, Seraphim made it official [which I consider a second], and DrippingGoofball made an official second, which I consider a third. Kublai Khan dropped the hammer on this choice being the clear leader).

Reasoning: None given. <--The title suggestion made me laugh. It didn't need a reason.

Famous Quotes

The ones that make me laugh. (Note: Some quotes might be combined, while others abridged)

"If television makes your brain lazy, reading Mastin's posts will give you mind atrophy."

---Albert B. Rampage, Newbie 763. He was rather annoyed at my long posts that seemed rather contentless in his mind. I disagree, but apparently, that's just me. (Further evidence of how I'm a writer: The word before both commas and the period in those sentences rhyme. :P)

"Mastin killed Night 1, was always the plan. He seems way too competent a player to be left hanging around."

---Battle Mage explaining his gameplan as scum (763 as well). Considering other players' view of me in the game, this was a hilarious comment to me, as well as a compliment. But, really, what on earth makes me so night-killable? The fact that I'm unlynchable thusfar? :/

"Mastin talks. A lot. Without saying much. I'll probably kill him just for *content censored*. And giggles. Oh, and because he suspects me even though I *content censored* steam rolled sera-scum into a lynch. That irks me. Really, really does."

---Green Crayons, in his monologue for who he plans to kill (Bleach Mafia). I took offense, but it made me laugh.

"OhGodMyLife wrote: Mastin replaces Giuseppe. Thanks, and welcome to the game Mastin!

OH *censored for content* NOT THIS GUY. I just hope he doesn't scare anyone off the site!! LOL"

---Albert, again, this time in Bleach Mafia. (Mini 760) Really, they just night-kill me, honest. :P

"I am among the folks who scrolled past all of Mastin's posts, lol. The excessive quote -->comment --> quote --> comment --> quote --> comment that just drove me NUTS."

---Phaen, a spectator to 763. Sheesh, really, what's so bad about my posts? :/

"My God.

Unvote, vote Mastin

Either we lynch him, he reduces his post length, or I ask for a replacement. "

---Albert, earlier on in 763. Seriously, I'm not that bad. Surely, there's worse out there...

No, there isn't ---Amished

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Lol.

Gems of MS.net

Mentions in other games that I'm not playing (...yet. :P)

"I can pad my posts with as much shit as I want. It's not a scumtell, unfortunately. Ever play with Mastin before?"

---Seraphim. My posts are filled with content, Seraph! Long, but filled with content. <_<

"Ether should play with Mastin.

And I think dank is a fink for preferring to play with Mastin than this "exploded" game. 4 pages? hah. "

---Phoebus. Can I interpret that as a compliment? XP

"I don't get how people like Goat and Mastin can say so much. "

---Xtoxm. It's in my nature. I'm writing a rant about it, actually. You'll see it eventually.

"Self-voting in RVS is anti-town because it robs the town of some potential connections; c.f. dice rolling and OMGUS in RVS. Any attempt to reduce the amount of information you're giving in the early game is scummy, because only scum have a motive for it. That said, silly townies do sometimes make these hilarious japes, not realizing the anti-town nature of what they're doing. It would be much better if they would realize they're going to get heat for their anti-town actions and resist the urge.

For what it's worth, I don't agree that it's a universal scum tell in that it applies across all possible metas. The obvious counter-example is that unfortunate fellow who always self votes at the start of the game (e.g., Mastin). "

---ekiM. I have to disagree with the fact that it's anti-town. It gets discussion going. It gets scum hunting done. It'd worked wonders in the past, and snaps us out of the random voting stage. I'll never stop doing it, ekiM. ;)

The Compliment Quotes

A bit hard to judge, but roughly ordered from most to least valuable, to me.

"@Mastin: Good call on Kronos & jeffcole1 at the beginning. You bascially had the game called. Next time you're cop though, don't push the case so hard (especially don't make up stuff), play it subtle. You did drop some cop-tells, but I had thought you had investigated Caleb as innocent. "

---Kublai Khan, 742. Complimenting me on my scum hunting abilities, criticizing my playstyle as the cop (which I find fine)

"I think Mastin made many of the right objections and comments in response to my defense."

--Andrigan, 735, commenting on my playstyle.

"I think the main reason the town won this game came down to Mastin making a good choice of investigation on N1. Not so much that he hit scum (though obviously, that helped), but that he did not make the dumb choice of investigating Caleb that I think many people would do.

Having found himself a guilty, Mastin was in a tough situation for D2. Normally, I'd advocate a cop claiming as soon as they get a guilty (maybe not in a large game, but certainly in a newbie), but with D1 pretty much wasted, the town really needed to get some conversation on D2 to catch the partner, so holding back was the right thing to do. But overall, your method worked well enough, and I have to say, I was truly impressed when you were onto both the scum on Page 2. I've never seen anyone get on completely the right track that quickly before. "

--iamausername, the mod of 742, complimenting me.

"Mastin, I think it's time to retire the last-to-confirm scumtell. You got killed for being on the right track on SisterCoyote, and for being troubling for scum to leave in the game. "

---Mikek under the name ekiM, 763. 'Compliment' noted.

"<3 Mastin

You're going to counterbalance PhilyEc perfectly. For every question PhilyEc asks, Mastin will provide five answers! No, six!! "

---Albert complimenting me, Mini 760 (Bleach Mafia).

" I looked fairly suspicious of Mastin for most of day 3, and I was, and if he had messed up that claim things might have turned out differently. "

---Scien, 735, explaining why I had been scummy, yet I did things well.

"Mastin: Well played as well. When Scien asked for your previous investigation, I was prepared to be suspicious of pretty much anything you said because it was all so predictable... until you said that you didn't get a result at all, which was the most believable scenario considering deadline's level of participation."

---Dourgrim, yup, 735.

"BTW mastin even though I felt you were anti town in your posting style and easy accusations you were also a valuable player by giving many different points of view and still being open minded after an accusation."

---Ivanavich, 763.

"I wanna congratulate Mastin for his awesome cop play."

---Alexhans, yea, 735.

"MASTIN your cop claim was perfectly timed. I think you do tunnel (the danger of being a cop). I won't fall for that again. Tunnel like that again and I will NK you as mafia because you will be clear cop!"

---Kieraen, also 735. A further compliment of my play as cop. I got a lot of compliments for my play that game.

"Our game started pretty quick because we had active posters and aggressive players *cough* Mastin *cough*"

---Fallen Angel talking about the speed of 763.

"I didn't know what to think of Mastin."

---Also Fallen Angel, commenting on my playstyle.

Games completed

Reverse-chronological order:

• Lynch All Lurkers.

Again, I hate it when I'm scum (in an all-goon mafia team, no less, nearly mountainous minus the masons) and I go inactive. I had THOUGHT I was staying within the posting limit. Yea, I was wrong. I got lynched for it. I had considered claiming that doctors receive an extra bonus for lurking, like maybe my protection only has a 75% chance of going through, but lurking makes it 100, but decided against it. I messed up as mafia. Again. (I do that a lot, don't I? Now people think I have a lurk-as-scum meta. Sometimes, I'll lurk as town JUST to prove them wrong.)

Link: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?userposts=&t=11246&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0

Scum Quick Topic: http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/NQPvq7JWX4fi

• Open 145--Polygamist Mafia.

Uhg. I hate it when I'm scum (basically, I was a four-man-all-mafia lover-mafia group) and I go inactive. I had done fine until I fell behind...and kept falling behind...and fell behind even more...it ended up eventually being too late. I had to recover from being AFK, but couldn't. Worse, MS.net broke for me around that time. It really, really sucked. I failed ekiM, AceMarksman, and ZazieR, players who I respect and who I know are good, and my overconfidence in my abilities and my activity level lead to my downfall. And by extent, our whole group.

Link: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11397

Scum Quick Topic: http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/mLyexE2Ew8y?m1=-1&mN=-1

• Open 141.

My low point in scum hunting. I was busy, did not have a lot of time on my hand, and ended up tunneling on the cop. It shows why falling behind is not a scum tell for me, and shows how I am not always in my game. THIS game managed to deflate my ego.

Link: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11336

• Newbie 762.

I was the doctor. I replaced in the pre-game. This game was significant in many ways. First of all, along with 763, it was the first game where I demonstrated my self-voting technique. Second of all, it also is the first game which I lost. Along with 763, this game was also the first game where I got night-killed n1. It also again showed how pro-town I was; I was considered fairly pro-town and I also had managed to peg the mafia by the end of the game.

Link: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10973

• Mini 760--Bleach Mafia.

I was a townie. (I replaced in around page fourteen) Well, mostly. Latent powers are awesome. Due to not knowing Albert's full playstyle, I thought he was scummy, and I am thinking this is what stopped me from early-on nailing all of the scum. But, hey, even though I thought he was scum at the time, and I was swayed into thinking GLaDOS was scum due to Gorrad's flip, I DID have two of the three scum down in what I consider my first true post of content.

Link: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10857

• Newbie 763.

A townie. In this game, I thought I had nailed the scum on page one. Well, I was half-right, half-wrong. Both increasing and smashing my confidence. I got night-killed n1, something which is becoming rather my legacy (I suppose it was a blessing in disguise--I would've fallen behind again, likely, considering how I had fallen six pages behind once, it was a real risk). I'm disappointed that nothing deflated my ego significantly from that game--I have rather the large one. Albert helped lessen my ego somewhat, but it's still there, due to me having been half-right.

Link: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10972

• Newbie 742.

The cop. This game felt like it was Deja vu of Newbie 735. I replaced in day one for a player who I don't remember the name of as the--as mentioned--cop (again), obviously with no results. This was a faster, more bloody game than 735 was, and while it mirrored many aspects of 735, I actually ended up completing my part in 742 before I did in 735. (Was shot) Town won, and the result made me wish I had stuck with my original thoughts, which nailed both scum day one.

Link: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10609

• Newbie 735.

The cop. Now, in this game, I replaced in for deadline (ah, I wish deadline would've stayed--I mean, that name is just so hilarious it's a shame to have it wasted), day two--as mentioned--as the cop, finding that I had no results to give. It was a close game at first (the lack of result irked me), and only later ended up the way it did because of my play style and--ironically--lack of result. Town won when the scum were dealt the fatal blow in their coffin via my claim, which shocked them. I consider this my first true game.

Link: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10445

(If you didn't notice, I likely need to do a little updating of my wiki. I keep on forgetting to update it often. :/)

Old

• Newbie 688.

Mafia Roleblocker. I do not count this as a game of mine. Why? I replaced out, circa page ten. Only my current games (listed above) count, as they're the only games where I have my playstyle. I had a completely different playstyle, then; why should it count? And when I replaced out, how can I consider it a win for me? Alduskkel is the one who won that game for the scum team, not I.

Link: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9622

Other Sites

Now, now, you don't think I just randomly came here from nowhere, do you? Sure, it's possible, but I didn't do that. I have games from other sites under my belt, although these sites are not known by most. They're fun to play on, if you have the capability to do so, though. I recommend trying it, sometime.

The Battleon Forums

URL:

forums2.battleon.com

Specifically, it was the Unofficial Contests and Games section of the forum, as that's where all forum games are played.

The first Mafia game was why I came to mafiascum.net. At least two or three of the players in the original mentioned that they have experience from mafiascum, and when I googled it, it didn't take long for me to find what I was looking for. These players are who I owe my MS.net career to. The original Mafia game (run by Dawn of Shadows) was amazingly balanced, and had a great outcome (the end was a Paranoid Gun Owner claim who was extremely scummy, a mason partnered with the lynch day one and a night kill, and the last scum--a fine example of Lynch or Lose).

• Mafia II: Alien Attack.

I was the doctor (I believe I successfully saved my target, Superemo) in this particular game until the game was modkilled (abandoned, whatever you want to call it) nearing the end of day two. A shame. Sixteen players, two scum factions, and a darn-good town to play with (and I'm fairly confident we had nailed scum day two as well), yet the game disappeared due to the mod going inactive.

This game is what introduced me to Epicmafia, via a player on there and my famous method of googling what I do not know the URL of. The game itself was my first true practice to forum Mafia (I joined this game after having left Newbie 688, but like I said, I don't count that as a game [and 688 didn't end until far after this game was abandoned. ;)]), and I did fairly well.

• Mafia, Atlantic Stowaway.

I was also one of two doctors in this very fun game, but, surprise, surprise! It was modkilled as well. The mod just vanished from the site. I later learned that there were two scum factions, numbering three each, in this fourteen-player game when people revealed their roles. It was revealed that there were two (or was it three?) cops in the game, as well as two doctors. Seemingly town sided. However, as the scum's goal was just to outnumber the town (and the scum all had the ability to target multiple people), they really only had to get it down to nine players (assuming no scum casualties) to win. I would've loved to see this game continue, see if my limited doctor (two-shot) ability allowed self-protect, if the 50% save from the other doctor would go through...

We never got to see day two. We lynched a werewolf day one...and the mod never got to the next day, due to vanishing. ;_;

(These two games are why my sig says "I hate modkilled games", for that's essentially what they are. The mod abandons the games to death...allowing them to essentially die, as if killed, via the mod.)

Epic Mafia

I have also been very active on Epicmafia.com, with the same username I have here, Mastin. Link here, if you can view it: http://www.epicmafia.com/user/index/7469 I have two alternate accounts as well, but would prefer not to link them, as some still don't realize they are me. I haven't played recently a lot due to computer problems, yet this is one of the reasons I play the way I do in Mafia games.