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The [[Cult]] is a third-party group that seeks to recruit players into itself. The recruitment is done by a [[Cult Leader]] who is typically the only member of the Cult at the beginning of the game. At Night, it can recruit players into the Cult; these players henceforth lose their previous role identities and become [[Cultist|Cultists]]. The Cult wins when it comprises half of the player list, at which time it controls the | The [[Cult]] is a third-party group that seeks to recruit players into itself. The recruitment is done by a [[Cult Leader]] who is typically the only member of the Cult at the beginning of the game. At Night, it can recruit players into the Cult; these players henceforth lose their previous role identities and become [[Cultist|Cultists]]. The Cult typically wins when it comprises half of the player list, at which time it [[Endgame|controls the elimination and trivializes the rest of the game]]. | ||
Cultists usually do not have the ability to recruit players, so if the Cult Leader dies, the Cultists are defenseless but must survive until they attain a majority. This can be difficult to do, especially if the Cult Leader only lives long enough to recruit one Cultist. | Cultists usually do not have the ability to recruit players, so if the Cult Leader dies, the Cultists are defenseless but must survive until they attain a majority. This can be difficult to do, especially if the Cult Leader only lives long enough to recruit one Cultist. | ||
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==Variations== | ==Variations== | ||
A common variation of Cult causes all of the Cultists to | A common variation of Cult causes all of the Cultists to unavoidably die if the Cult Leader dies (i.e. making the Cult Leader a [[Flagbearer]]). This is to prevent orphaned lone Cultists, but the necessity of this rule is disputed. | ||
Some moderators allow Cultists to recruit players if the Cult Leader dies. However, this becomes completely impossible to balance, as there is virtually no chance of the Cult ever being completely wiped out. | Some moderators allow Cultists to recruit players if the Cult Leader dies. However, this becomes completely impossible to balance, as there is virtually no chance of the Cult ever being completely wiped out. | ||
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If the Cult is not exterminated within the first two game Days, they almost inevitably win. Therefore, you shouldn't use these unless other people have told you you know what you are doing. | If the Cult is not exterminated within the first two game Days, they almost inevitably win. Therefore, you shouldn't use these unless other people have told you you know what you are doing. | ||
Most attempts at balancing a Cult need to address two problems: a swing issue (in which killing the Cult Leader early makes the Cult a non-issue, but failing to do so leaves them very powerful), and the issue that the cult can typically recruit as fast (or faster) than the town can | Most attempts at balancing a Cult need to address two problems: a swing issue (in which killing the Cult Leader early makes the Cult a non-issue, but failing to do so leaves them very powerful), and the issue that the cult can typically recruit as fast (or faster) than the town can eliminate them. Balanced games containing a Cult nearly always need to have some means of slowing the Cult down. This is much easier to do via a change to the game mechanics (or to the Cult mechanics) than it is using [[power roles]]; although roles like [[Alarmist]] help, they come nowhere close to the amount of power needed to keep the Cult in check. | ||
Games where a Cult is the only anti-town faction also have the issue that through much of the early game, almost everyone is [[Town]]-aligned. This makes [[scumhunting]] difficult to impossible, because there are very few scum to hunt, and can make the early game rather unfun (especially as [[townhunting]], the usual alternative, is pointless in a Cult game because townies may stop being townies at any moment). | |||
==Criticisms== | ==Criticisms== | ||
Cults have been criticized for being very hard to balance. For example, the Town could | Cults have been criticized for being very hard to balance. For example, the Town could eliminate [[Cultist|Cultists]] each Day but still lose because someone else becomes recruited to take their spot. Cults could also overpower the town if they recruit all of the Town's [[power role]]s. Most players also find it annoying if a Cult Leader targets a member of the [[Mafia]] on the first [[night]] if the die-on-scum-recruitment rule is used. | ||
Another criticism of Cults is that they can make a player's previous efforts in the game pointless due to formerly pro-Town players (either themselves or others) suddenly becoming scum. This criticism is common to all [[:Category:Alignment-Changing roles|alignment-changing roles]]. | Another criticism of Cults is that they can make a player's previous efforts in the game pointless due to formerly pro-Town players (either themselves or others) suddenly becoming scum. This criticism is common to all [[:Category:Alignment-Changing roles|alignment-changing roles]]. | ||
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The Cult is a third-party group that seeks to recruit players into itself. The recruitment is done by a Cult Leader who is typically the only member of the Cult at the beginning of the game. At Night, it can recruit players into the Cult; these players henceforth lose their previous role identities and become Cultists. The Cult typically wins when it comprises half of the player list, at which time it controls the elimination and trivializes the rest of the game.
Cultists usually do not have the ability to recruit players, so if the Cult Leader dies, the Cultists are defenseless but must survive until they attain a majority. This can be difficult to do, especially if the Cult Leader only lives long enough to recruit one Cultist.
It is not unheard of for Cult and Cult Leader to be aliases of Masonry and Masonizer respectively, but this interpretation is quite outdated given the notoriety Cults have achieved.
Variations
A common variation of Cult causes all of the Cultists to unavoidably die if the Cult Leader dies (i.e. making the Cult Leader a Flagbearer). This is to prevent orphaned lone Cultists, but the necessity of this rule is disputed.
Some moderators allow Cultists to recruit players if the Cult Leader dies. However, this becomes completely impossible to balance, as there is virtually no chance of the Cult ever being completely wiped out.
Cults may form a faction, but unlike Mafia, they do not have a factional kill. On rare occasions, they do or may acquire one - this is called Cultafia and is again difficult-to-impossible to balance.
Moderators are mixed in regards to what happens if a Cult Leader attempts to recruit Mafia, as a recruited Mafia player can simply tell the rest of the cult who the other scum are. Options have ranged from the Mafioso simply not getting recruited, to the Cult Leader dying, to the Mafioso getting recruited and replaced at the same time (so that they don't know who the other scum are). The most common solution is usually the second one.
Use and Power
If the Cult is not exterminated within the first two game Days, they almost inevitably win. Therefore, you shouldn't use these unless other people have told you you know what you are doing.
Most attempts at balancing a Cult need to address two problems: a swing issue (in which killing the Cult Leader early makes the Cult a non-issue, but failing to do so leaves them very powerful), and the issue that the cult can typically recruit as fast (or faster) than the town can eliminate them. Balanced games containing a Cult nearly always need to have some means of slowing the Cult down. This is much easier to do via a change to the game mechanics (or to the Cult mechanics) than it is using power roles; although roles like Alarmist help, they come nowhere close to the amount of power needed to keep the Cult in check.
Games where a Cult is the only anti-town faction also have the issue that through much of the early game, almost everyone is Town-aligned. This makes scumhunting difficult to impossible, because there are very few scum to hunt, and can make the early game rather unfun (especially as townhunting, the usual alternative, is pointless in a Cult game because townies may stop being townies at any moment).
Criticisms
Cults have been criticized for being very hard to balance. For example, the Town could eliminate Cultists each Day but still lose because someone else becomes recruited to take their spot. Cults could also overpower the town if they recruit all of the Town's power roles. Most players also find it annoying if a Cult Leader targets a member of the Mafia on the first night if the die-on-scum-recruitment rule is used.
Another criticism of Cults is that they can make a player's previous efforts in the game pointless due to formerly pro-Town players (either themselves or others) suddenly becoming scum. This criticism is common to all alignment-changing roles.