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'''Vengeful Townie''' is a role that, when lynched, is awarded the ability to kill any other player as they die.
A '''Vengeful''' player is a one that, when lynched, is awarded the ability to kill any other player as they die.
 
Vengeful can also be a role modifier; for instance, a Vengeful [[Mafia Goon]] is a member of the [[Mafia]] who gets to perform a kill when lynched.


Vengeful roles are much more commonly Town than Mafia, as Vengeful Mafia roles essentially punish the Town for lynching them.
Vengeful roles are much more commonly Town than Mafia, as Vengeful Mafia roles essentially punish the Town for lynching them.


==Variation==
==Variation==
A [[Super Saint]] is a Vengeful Townie who only kills the person who placed the [[hammer]] vote (they do not get to choose).  The [[Super Saint]] is notably featured in the mafia variant [[SS3]].
A '''Super Saint''' is a Vengeful Townie who only kills the person who placed the [[hammer]] vote (they do not get to choose).  The Super Saint is notably featured in the mafia variant [[SS3]].


Some moderators interchange Vengeful and [[Bomb]] for this role.
Some moderators interchange the names Vengeful and [[Bomb]].


In [[Vengeful Mafia]] games, the Vengeful Townie may only kill if the game is in a [[LyLo]] state.  However, this is not done in any other setup.
In [[Vengeful Mafia]] games, the Vengeful Townie may only kill if the game is in a [[LyLo]] state.  However, this is not done in any other setup.
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==Use and Power==
==Use and Power==
A Vengeful Townie is in effect a bonus kill for its faction, pending the player's lynch.
A Vengeful Townie is in effect a bonus kill for its faction, pending the player's lynch.  This is the best case - there is theoretically a less-than-50% chance that the Vengeful player will not be lynched, and the role will do nothing.  Thus, it is notably low-power.
 
A Vengeful scum role gives the scum a free kill.  The scum will tend to engineer a bus on a Vengeful scum role specifically to get this kill out.


==Play Advice==
==Play Advice==
Claiming Vengeful Townie is not advised (unless your actual role is Vengeful and Mafia-aligned).  The effect of giving its faction a bonus kill is useless unless you yourself are worth lynching - otherwise it's obviously more profitable to lynch the player you would Vengefully kill while leaving you alive.  Thus, Vengeful claims under duress are seen as grounds for a [[policy lynch]].
Claiming Vengeful Townie is not advised (unless your actual role is Vengeful and Mafia-aligned).  The effect of giving its faction a bonus kill is useless unless you yourself are worth lynching - otherwise it's obviously more profitable to lynch the player you would Vengefully kill while leaving you alive.  Thus, Vengeful claims under duress are seen as grounds for a [[policy lynch]].


[[Category:Roles]]
If you are still unclaimed at three-player [[LyLo]], consider deliberately getting lynched and using your vengekill on the hapless [[quickhammer|quickhammering]] scum.
 
[[Category:Role Modifiers]]

Revision as of 02:07, 6 August 2011

Vengeful (role)
Alias:
  • Super Saint
Alignment: any
Role type:
  • Killing
  • Passive
Choice: none

A Vengeful player is a one that, when lynched, is awarded the ability to kill any other player as they die.

Vengeful roles are much more commonly Town than Mafia, as Vengeful Mafia roles essentially punish the Town for lynching them.

Variation

A Super Saint is a Vengeful Townie who only kills the person who placed the hammer vote (they do not get to choose). The Super Saint is notably featured in the mafia variant SS3.

Some moderators interchange the names Vengeful and Bomb.

In Vengeful Mafia games, the Vengeful Townie may only kill if the game is in a LyLo state. However, this is not done in any other setup.

Some versions of Vengeful are allowed to kill a player upon death regardless of whether they are lynched or killed by another means.

Use and Power

A Vengeful Townie is in effect a bonus kill for its faction, pending the player's lynch. This is the best case - there is theoretically a less-than-50% chance that the Vengeful player will not be lynched, and the role will do nothing. Thus, it is notably low-power.

A Vengeful scum role gives the scum a free kill. The scum will tend to engineer a bus on a Vengeful scum role specifically to get this kill out.

Play Advice

Claiming Vengeful Townie is not advised (unless your actual role is Vengeful and Mafia-aligned). The effect of giving its faction a bonus kill is useless unless you yourself are worth lynching - otherwise it's obviously more profitable to lynch the player you would Vengefully kill while leaving you alive. Thus, Vengeful claims under duress are seen as grounds for a policy lynch.

If you are still unclaimed at three-player LyLo, consider deliberately getting lynched and using your vengekill on the hapless quickhammering scum.