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The common tells for the doctor are disgustingly simple.  There are a LOT of additional judgment signs, but these four are tremendously common.  (Of 10 games, these rules identified the doc in 7 of them)
===Rules for Finding the [[Doctor]]:===


===Rules for Finding the doctor:===
# The first person to indicate they are not the doctor is probably the doctor (+50%).
 
# If there is a claimed doctor, then anyone disputing it, without trying to ''appear'' to dispute it, is the doctor (+25%)
# The first player to mention the doctor in a way that indicates they are NOT the doctor, is the doctor (+50%) THIS tell simply MUST go away.
#If there is a claimed doctor: anyone who disputes it, without trying to appear to be disputing it, is the doctor (+25)
# The first player to congratulate the doctor is scum or doctor (+20, +10)
# The first player to congratulate the doctor is scum or doctor (+20, +10)
# withheld [... boo :(]
# withheld [... boo :(]


===Notes:===
===Notes:===
Part of the reason Doc makes such a good claim for scum is that they have similar desires--  to remain under the radar.  They are also (arguably) the most valuable pro-town role.  This makes it risky to lynch a claimed doctor.  IMPORTANT NOTE TO TOWNIES: Do not try the ploy where you claim to be a doctor "to draw mafia fire".  It only helps the mafia find the real doctor(s) (see 2) and SHOULD get you lynched (see [[Lynch All Liars]]).  Many intelligent/good players have tried this and it simply backfires.  If you think that the mafia is stupid, then there is no need for you to try this and if they are not stupid, you're going to get bit.
Part of the reason Doc makes such a good claim for scum is that they have similar desires: Remain under the radar.  Doctors are arguably the most valuable pro-town role, so players are reluctant to lynch a claimed doctor.  ''Note for Townies'': Don't  claim to be doctor "to draw mafia fire".  This usually helps mafia find the real doctor(s) (because they will counterclaim, subtly or not) and gets you lynched ([[Lynch All Liars]]).   
 
Now what does 3 mean?  One tactic used by the mafia is to claim doctor.  It is such a powerful claim that it got to the point where a player who claimed doctor was more likely to be mafia than doctor.  It's OFTEN used to draw out the real doctor.  It's a difficult position for the Doctor to be in.  Therefore, they often seem to babbly.  Someone will definitely not believe a doc claim, but be super tight-lipped about why.  It's a judgment call, but it's not too tough to spot.


(I told you that you would be disappointed)
One tactic used by the mafia is to claim doctor, especially when the first mafia is forced to claim when under pressure of lynch (they need to claim something).  It is such a powerful claim that it may be more likely that claimed doctors are mafia than doctor.  It's ''often'' used to draw out the real doctor.  It's a difficult position for the Doctor to be in.  Therefore, they often seem somewhat incoherent or indecisive.  Someone will definitely not believe a doc claim, but be tight-lipped about why.  It's a judgment call, but it's not too tough to spot.


[[Category:Common Tells]]
[[Category:Common Tells]]

Revision as of 14:59, 5 July 2007

Rules for Finding the Doctor:

  1. The first person to indicate they are not the doctor is probably the doctor (+50%).
  2. If there is a claimed doctor, then anyone disputing it, without trying to appear to dispute it, is the doctor (+25%)
  3. The first player to congratulate the doctor is scum or doctor (+20, +10)
  4. withheld [... boo :(]

Notes:

Part of the reason Doc makes such a good claim for scum is that they have similar desires: Remain under the radar. Doctors are arguably the most valuable pro-town role, so players are reluctant to lynch a claimed doctor. Note for Townies: Don't claim to be doctor "to draw mafia fire". This usually helps mafia find the real doctor(s) (because they will counterclaim, subtly or not) and gets you lynched (Lynch All Liars).

One tactic used by the mafia is to claim doctor, especially when the first mafia is forced to claim when under pressure of lynch (they need to claim something). It is such a powerful claim that it may be more likely that claimed doctors are mafia than doctor. It's often used to draw out the real doctor. It's a difficult position for the Doctor to be in. Therefore, they often seem somewhat incoherent or indecisive. Someone will definitely not believe a doc claim, but be tight-lipped about why. It's a judgment call, but it's not too tough to spot.

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