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From the PM:
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==Wanted Pages==
I've added the phantom 25-50 Newbie games (albeit a short description, since they were played in 2004 and nobody cares any more), but now the <nowiki>{{newbiegames}}</nowiki> template works. I've also added about 5-10 other Scummers' pages. I think once they get up over 5 links to them, that we should just create a basic "This is a scummer that joined November 12, 1997"-type page, so that there aren't a bunch of broken links out there. Users with less than five links we shouldn't have to worry about.


Right, I've moved the wiki flat files over to /mafiawiki and moved MediaWiki to /wiki. The change on the wiki shouldn't be noticeable unless I've messed something up (jeep might want to check to make sure I haven't...).


'''From the PM:'''
<blockquote>Right, I've moved the wiki flat files over to /mafiawiki and moved MediaWiki to /wiki. The change on the wiki shouldn't be noticeable unless I've messed something up (jeep might want to check to make sure I haven't...).
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Anyway, Mr. Flay and I have been playing a bit with MediaWiki, but now I want to invite the newly formed Wiki Group to register and test as well. Once you've registered we'll set you up as a Sysop (you'll probably only ever need this added access for the few protected pages we might have).
Anyway, Mr. Flay and I have been playing a bit with MediaWiki, but now I want to invite the newly formed Wiki Group to register and test as well. Once you've registered we'll set you up as a Sysop (you'll probably only ever need this added access for the few protected pages we might have).
 
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Before we get started on the bulk of the moving, there's probably a few things we should discuss, such as:
Before we get started on the bulk of the moving, there's probably a few things we should discuss, such as:
 
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Categories - What categories do we need? (Roles, Rules/Gameplay, Games, Setups, Users, Forum, Wiki... what else?)
Categories - What categories do we need? (Roles, Rules/Gameplay, Games, Setups, Users, Forum, Wiki... what else?)
Format and Style - How should pages be formatted? Within a category, I'd like to keep things pretty standard. Also some style conventions... how to name pages, stuff like that.
Format and Style - How should pages be formatted? Within a category, I'd like to keep things pretty standard. Also some style conventions... how to name pages, stuff like that.
Stuff We Should Have - I've mentioned one above; I'd really like to see us start getting some information on the games we've played on the wiki. I think one of the next things I will play with is making pages for the Open Games... mess around with the format and such. Likewise with the setups, I'd like to get the various Open Setups from the discussion thread on the wiki for easy reference. What else?
Stuff We Should Have - I've mentioned one above; I'd really like to see us start getting some information on the games we've played on the wiki. I think one of the next things I will play with is making pages for the Open Games... mess around with the format and such. Likewise with the setups, I'd like to get the various Open Setups from the discussion thread on the wiki for easy reference. What else?
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Anyway, that's enough to get us started for now.</blockquote>


Anyway, that's enough to get us started for now.


== User override for skins? ==


I don't have a lot of experience with CSS, but I was going to try and experiment a bit with the skins. It doesn't appear, though, that this installation of the MediaWiki software imports the user's CSS overrides ([[User:<blah>/<skinname>.css]]). It'd make experimenting a lot easier without someone having to edit the site-wide css ;). (apparently I didn't sign, before --[[User:Azkar|Azkar]] 12:22, 2 February 2007 (MST))
:Yeah, according to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:User_style#General it's not turned on by default, I'll see if jeep/mith think it's a good idea. -- [[User:Mr. Flay|Mr.]] [[User_talk:Mr. Flay|Flay]] 14:12, 1 February 2007 (MST)


==Categories==
==Transwiki==
 
Apart from the ones mith suggested I'd like a Community, and a Mish-Mash category. (Mish-Mash is for rules of common Mish-Mash games, Community is for all sorts of articles that don't really have a direct connection to the game, nor to a specific player (Examples: MeMeMeet, Scummie, History of mafiascum.net). Furthermore, I suggest to split what mith called Rules/Gameplay into two different categories: Rules and Strategy or something.... (I'm not particularly happy with the name 'Rules', stuff like newbie guides should go there too, who can think of something better?)
 
--[[User:Flying Dutchman|Flying Dutchman]] 13:40, 20 September 2006 (MDT)\
 
I left out "Theory", which is where I would put Strategy type stuff (metagame stuff, logical fallacies, etc.). What I meant by Gameplay was terms such as "Day Start", or even just very basic stuff like "Lynch", "Deadline", etc.
 
All names are of course subject to change.
 
--[[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 01:49, 21 September 2006 (MDT)
 
:I definitely like having a Mish-Mash category; Community sounds like it could encompass quite a bit at present, maybe we should roll that one around for a bit in our brains. It's relatively easy for someone with sysop rights to delete old categories if they turn out to be a crappy system, and anyone can reorganize any unprotected pages, so that doesn't seem too big a deal. I created some of the basic-duh ones tonight, check out [[Special:Categories]] and [[:Category:Categories]]. -- [[User:Mr. Flay|Mr.]] [[User_talk:Mr. Flay|Flay]] 01:50, 21 September 2006 (MDT)
 
== Namespaces ==
 
mith, we probably need to visit renaming a few of the namespaces (well, one, anyway). [[Project:]] got set to '''Mafia Wiki Test''' during the testing, but I think it has to be changed at the configuration level (unless I just can't find the MediaWiki file). What do we want to call it? For example, Wikipedia calls this their '''Wikipedia:''' namespace, A Wheel of Time wiki uses '''Wotwiki:''', and the Psychology Wiki on Wikia just uses... '''Psychology Wiki:'''. I'm fond of anything that doesn't include spaces, just cuz it's easier for me to type, but I don't have strong feelings. Maybe '''MafiaWiki:'''? -- [[User:Mr. Flay|Mr.]] [[User_talk:Mr. Flay|Flay]] 01:48, 21 September 2006 (MDT)
 
Yeah, I'll look for it later today. Should've named it right to begin with.


--[[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 01:51, 21 September 2006 (MDT)
"needs to have all redlinks filled in."  Really? [[User:Mr Stoofer|Mr Stoofer]] 06:36, 6 February 2007 (MST)
:Probably, since all redlinks there are actual wiki pages on the old wiki. When the [wiki] tag is flipped over we don't want any confusion, right? Obviously many of the CamelCase ones will be redirects... or am I missing something? -- [[User:Mr. Flay|Mr.]] [[User_talk:Mr. Flay|Flay]] 13:46, 6 February 2007 (MST)
::Well, there is some real junk on this list.  I could go through and give you loads of examples but heres a clear one: [http://www.mafiascum.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl/Great_White_HaXX0r_Krew Great White HaXX0r Krew].  Or is this sort of garbage welcome on MafiaWiki? --[[User:Mr Stoofer|Mr Stoofer]] 02:16, 7 February 2007 (MST)
:::Ehhh, I could take a miss on that one. I never actually loaded the page before...feel free to drop it from the list if it doesn't make sense to you. If someone objects to losing a page, we can always recreate it later if it's actually useful. It's a wiki. :) -- [[User:Mr. Flay|Mr.]] [[User_talk:Mr. Flay|Flay]] 18:40, 8 February 2007 (MST)


== Spam procedures ==
== protecting page... ==


Obviously right now we're open to anonymous editing. We might want to consider implementing the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SpamBlacklist_extension Spam Blacklist] as a less intrusive way of tying to manage our ViaGRA-loving friends from .ru.... -- [[User:Mr. Flay|Mr.]] [[User_talk:Mr. Flay|Flay]] 02:35, 21 September 2006 (MDT)
this page seems semi-official... i've already protected the page from IP edits just b/c it seems to be a hot spot for spammers, but should this page be fully protected?..<br/> -- [[User:Dani Banani|Dani]] [[User_talk:Dani Banani|Banani]] 22:06, 16 November 2007 (MST)


== Stoofer's random thoughts about the new Wiki ==
== Redefine? ==


:''moved from [[User_talk:Mr. Flay]]''
Does this list encompass everything that someone can do? We could encourage people to do more things (templates, expanding articles, creating new ones, investigating theory)...
For want of a better place, I thought this would be a good spot to note down some of the thoughts I've had about the new wiki, now that I've been playing with it for a couple of hours
# It seems to me to be pretty far advanced - what's stopping you from making it go live and freezing the old wiki completely
# Will [wiki] tags on the forum point here?
# Is the picture set in stone?  Why not have the forum logo?
# Why can't we upload (not complaining as such, I'd just be interested in the reasons)
# Who are the sysops and what are their powers (I know what a sysop is)?
# Is it OK to pester you with these sorts of questions?


[[User:Mr Stoofer|Stoofer]] 10:06, 31 January 2007 (MST)
Also, uncategorized pages is empty right now.
:# mith just locked the old wiki from editing and we should be able to swap the links pretty soon. My work has exploded on me so I haven't been able to do much transwiki'ing lately as I'd like, so I'm really glad to see other people stepping up. :)
--<span style="color:#336600">Andycyca</span>||[[User:Andycyca|<span style="color:#006633">me</span>]]||[[User_talk:Andycyca|<span style="color:green">What?</span>]] 23:24, 28 February 2009 (EST)
:# yep, that's a simple code switch I'm told.
:# No, I think that was more a test edit to have something there when the then-test wiki was set up. We could certainly talk about swapping it for something more useful.
:# I'm not sure if mith is comfortable with adding that capability or not. Will see if he'll weigh in on it, as I would find it useful too.
:# See [[Special:Listusers]]. IP/anonymous users can edit most pages. Regular logged in users can edit almost any page, make their own custom CSS/javascript, keep a watchlist of articles they like to watch for changes in, have a talk page, etc.  Sysops can protect/unprotect pages from general editing, delete/undelete pages, block/unblock users/spammers (incl. IPs if needed), edit the MediaWiki interface pages like the sidebar and page headers/footers, and the global CSS/javascript. Bureaucrats can make more sysops. I'm sure there's other actions, but those are the most common ones.
:# Answered on my talk page. :) -- [[User:Mr. Flay|Mr.]] [[User_talk:Mr. Flay|Flay]] 07:13, 1 February 2007 (MST)


== User override for skins? ==
== Pictures ==


I don't have a lot of experience with CSS, but I was going to try and experiment a bit with the skins. It doesn't appear, though, that this installation of the MediaWiki software imports the user's CSS overrides ([[User:<blah>/<skinname>.css]]). It'd make experimenting a lot easier without someone having to edit the site-wide css ;).
Might be interesting to ask/commission someone to make some graphics for some of the glossary terms and/or roles. Just to give things a little more visual 'Oomph'.--[[User:Kublai Khan|Kublai Khan]] 10:33, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
:Yeah, according to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:User_style#General it's not turned on by default, I'll see if jeep/mith think it's a good idea. -- [[User:Mr. Flay|Mr.]] [[User_talk:Mr. Flay|Flay]] 14:12, 1 February 2007 (MST)

Latest revision as of 22:17, 25 February 2015

Wanted Pages

I've added the phantom 25-50 Newbie games (albeit a short description, since they were played in 2004 and nobody cares any more), but now the {{newbiegames}} template works. I've also added about 5-10 other Scummers' pages. I think once they get up over 5 links to them, that we should just create a basic "This is a scummer that joined November 12, 1997"-type page, so that there aren't a bunch of broken links out there. Users with less than five links we shouldn't have to worry about.


From the PM:

Right, I've moved the wiki flat files over to /mafiawiki and moved MediaWiki to /wiki. The change on the wiki shouldn't be noticeable unless I've messed something up (jeep might want to check to make sure I haven't...).


Anyway, Mr. Flay and I have been playing a bit with MediaWiki, but now I want to invite the newly formed Wiki Group to register and test as well. Once you've registered we'll set you up as a Sysop (you'll probably only ever need this added access for the few protected pages we might have).
Before we get started on the bulk of the moving, there's probably a few things we should discuss, such as:
Categories - What categories do we need? (Roles, Rules/Gameplay, Games, Setups, Users, Forum, Wiki... what else?) Format and Style - How should pages be formatted? Within a category, I'd like to keep things pretty standard. Also some style conventions... how to name pages, stuff like that. Stuff We Should Have - I've mentioned one above; I'd really like to see us start getting some information on the games we've played on the wiki. I think one of the next things I will play with is making pages for the Open Games... mess around with the format and such. Likewise with the setups, I'd like to get the various Open Setups from the discussion thread on the wiki for easy reference. What else?

Anyway, that's enough to get us started for now.


User override for skins?

I don't have a lot of experience with CSS, but I was going to try and experiment a bit with the skins. It doesn't appear, though, that this installation of the MediaWiki software imports the user's CSS overrides ([[User:<blah>/<skinname>.css]]). It'd make experimenting a lot easier without someone having to edit the site-wide css ;). (apparently I didn't sign, before --Azkar 12:22, 2 February 2007 (MST))

Yeah, according to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:User_style#General it's not turned on by default, I'll see if jeep/mith think it's a good idea. -- Mr. Flay 14:12, 1 February 2007 (MST)

Transwiki

"needs to have all redlinks filled in." Really? Mr Stoofer 06:36, 6 February 2007 (MST)

Probably, since all redlinks there are actual wiki pages on the old wiki. When the [wiki] tag is flipped over we don't want any confusion, right? Obviously many of the CamelCase ones will be redirects... or am I missing something? -- Mr. Flay 13:46, 6 February 2007 (MST)
Well, there is some real junk on this list. I could go through and give you loads of examples but heres a clear one: Great White HaXX0r Krew. Or is this sort of garbage welcome on MafiaWiki? --Mr Stoofer 02:16, 7 February 2007 (MST)
Ehhh, I could take a miss on that one. I never actually loaded the page before...feel free to drop it from the list if it doesn't make sense to you. If someone objects to losing a page, we can always recreate it later if it's actually useful. It's a wiki. :) -- Mr. Flay 18:40, 8 February 2007 (MST)

protecting page...

this page seems semi-official... i've already protected the page from IP edits just b/c it seems to be a hot spot for spammers, but should this page be fully protected?..
-- Dani Banani 22:06, 16 November 2007 (MST)

Redefine?

Does this list encompass everything that someone can do? We could encourage people to do more things (templates, expanding articles, creating new ones, investigating theory)...

Also, uncategorized pages is empty right now. --Andycyca||me||What? 23:24, 28 February 2009 (EST)

Pictures

Might be interesting to ask/commission someone to make some graphics for some of the glossary terms and/or roles. Just to give things a little more visual 'Oomph'.--Kublai Khan 10:33, 11 July 2009 (EDT)

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